Questioner: Sadhguru Namaskar. I just wanted to know what is the importance
of doing shraddh Sadhguru: In the manifestation of life,
the physical life there is – let me separate this.
There is life and physical life for the sake of understanding.
The physical life has manifested itself. The physical life energy which generally is
referred to as pran or prana has five basic manifestations
there are ten but that'll complicate – the five basic manifestations.
These are called samana,
prana, udana,
apana and vyana.
When a person is declared Let's say if a doctor is observing
and they declared that person at a particular moment that he is dead now,
in the next twenty-one to twenty-four minutes samana will start exiting.
That means samana is in charge of maintaining temperature in the body.
First thing that starts happening is body starts cooling down.
Somewhere between forty-eight to sixty-four minutes prana exits.
After that between six to twelve hours udana exists… exits.
Till udana exits there are tantric processes with which we
could revive the body, but once udana exits there is a
a micro, micro chance but that is an impractical chance except that
it is impossible to revive the body once udana has exited,
The next thing is apana – somewhere between eight to eighteen hours
this exits. The vyana which is the preservative nature
of prana will start exiting from beyond that it can continue to exit up to eleven to fourteen
days if it's a normal death.
That is, somebody died of old age, with the feebleness of life they exited.
For such a person between eleven to fourteen days
certain processes will be happening in the body
to show that there is some element of life like nails growing,
hair… facial hair these kind of things can be noticed.
If someone has died accidentally, or in other words,
the life was vibrant and he died – not necessarily totally crushed kind of body
– still the body is intact –
that body, the reverberations of this life will continue
somewhere between forty-eight to ninety days. So till that time there are things you can
do for that life. What is the thing that you can do for that
life? See, what has happened with death is
your experience of death is that somebody is gone
but the experience of that person is he's exited the body.
And simply because he's exited the body you have no business with him
you cannot recognize him and if he comes back you will be terrified
The people that you love, if they pop up there'll be terror, not love
because your relationship is … either with their body
or with their conscious mind and emotion. These things have been left behind –
the body has been left behind and the conscious intellect and the discerning
mind has been left behind. Now in terms of mind
it is just a bunch of information which has certain tendencies of its own –
natural tendencies which are finding expression in a certain way.
There is no discerning mind. Once there is no discerning mind,
if you drop if you put one drop of pleasantness into this
mind which has no discerning capability, no intellect,
now this pleasantness will multiply a million fold.
If you put a drop of unpleasantness, that unpleasantness will multiply a minion…
million fold. It's like your child who doesn't have the
necessary discernment he goes out to play
he doesn't know when to come back. Till he's exhausted and he can't do anymore,
till then he wants to play because he has he doesn't have the necessary discernment
– okay it's time to go.
Similarly this is an extreme state where it is much more than a child where completely
the discerning mind is absent. So now whatever quality you put into it,
it will multiply a million fold. This is what is being referred to as hell
and heaven. If you go into a pleasant state of existence
this is called as heaven; if you go into a unpleasant state of existence
this is called as hell. These are not geographical locations
these are experiential realities that a life which has become disembodied is going
through. So what people are trying to do –
how well it is done or how ridiculously it is done today is a different matter,
but there is a whole science what to do at different steps.
One of the first things you must notice is traditionally – I don't know if you're
still keeping it in Mumbai, maybe it's all gone,
but if somebody dies there will be people, the first thing they will do is they'll
tie the big toes of the dead body together. Do you still do it or it's gone?
Participants: Yes. Sadhguru: Yes, it's very important
because tying up the big toes will tighten up the mooladhara in a certain way
so the body cannot be invaded or attempts to invade the body by that life
once again because… that life has not lived with the
awareness knowing that "This is not me."
It has always believed "This is me". Though it has come out, it tries to enter
through any orifice that is there in the body particularly through the mooladhara that's
life that's where life generates
and as body starts cooling down the only region where warmth will remain till
the last point – the last point of warmth is always the mooladhara.
So it tries to get back. To avoid this, the first thing is tie the
toes so that that attempt will not happen
because this exiting is happening stage by stage.
The reason why traditionally always we said if someone dies, within an hour-and-a-half
or maximum of four hours you must burn the body because this act is
going on. Now this is also true for the living.
If someone very dear to you is dead – you know he's dead but your mind starts
playing tricks – maybe he's going to sit up just now,
maybe a miracle will happen, maybe god will come and do something fantastic
right now. It has never happened to anybody
but still mind plays this because of the emotions that we have for that particular person.
And that is the same thing is true with the life that has exited from the body
this also believes that still it can get back into the body.
If you want to stop the drama, first thing is set fire to the body
one-and-a-half hours. But those days because, you know,
villages and no doctors to tell you for sure he is dead.
Somebody put on the funeral pyre and set fire, the guy sits up because he's not yet
These things have happened in the past. So they stretched it to four hours
so that these mistakes don't happen, but as quickly as possible body should be
taken away. If there are agriculture communities
they decided to bury because they want the forefathers and their
body to go back to the soil from which they ate.
You must understand we were in a subsistence farming.
We ate from that land. That land
A piece of that land is what we are holding as this body.
So they wanted to put this soil back into the same soil,
not somewhere else. Always you bury him in your land,
never in somebody else's land because you ate from this land.
Today you're buying everything from the store and eating.
You don't know where it's coming from so burial is not a good thing to do now.
At that time there is a certain process and to see that it happens as quickly as possible,
always salt and turmeric was put. So that quickly it dissipates into the soil.
But cremation is a good thing to do because it closes the chapter.
You will see this when there's death in the family, people
are crying and hollering and doing all kinds of things.
The moment cremation happens people will come back home,
everything is quiet. Nobody is crying for some time
because suddenly the truth has sunk in, "It's over.
The game is up." This is not only for you.
This is also for the disembodied being who's just exited
because he's also in that illusion that he can get back
and that stops, and that's a good thing. And there're many rituals to see that you
influence that you can somehow put a drop of sweetness
into that non-discerning mind so that the sweetness will multiply many fold
and they will live comfortably or they will live in a… a certain self-induced
heaven. That's the idea behind the rituals,
if it is done properly. Questioner:If I think of tomorrow, I'll be
somewhere. If I think about next year, I can be somewhere. After my death, I cannot even
think there is a conscious. Sadhguru: You want to know where you will
be after death? Participant: Yeah.
Sadhguru: Okay. See, Prasanna some things you know best only by experience,
you know. (All Laugh)
Are you ready? No, you leave the planning to me. (Laughs)
Are you ready to experience? Hum? We must open this glass pane right now.
you are not conscious so where is the question of your consciousness?
(Laughs) Who told you you are conscious?
You are speaking but it is not making any sense to anybody. (Laughs)
When somebody starts talking, talking, talking, and they don't know what they're talking
we will assume that they're unconscious, isn't it?
Okay. I know the question but I want you to get to know the depth of
the question. You are asking the question without knowing
what you are questioning. When you ask 'what is going to happen after
death' it is not a curiosity question,
it is not an entertainment question, you are asking 'What is my destiny?
What is the source of who I am?' Isn't it? (Laughs)
I know why you are asking, okay, because all those things that you read
and you did not understand those things have messed you up badly,
I know that's why you're asking but let me look at this.
Now, 'I want to know what's going to happen beyond this body'
is it a small question? You are asking
'What is the source of who I am? Who is me?'
That's what you are asking. If you do not know who is you and
if you know that you don't know who you are
there must be a tearing pain within you, isn't it?
You are existing here without knowing who you are
must be a terrible thing, isn't it? You have not realized the immensity of the
question. You don't know
if you cry with this question, if you roll on the floor with this question,
if tears are the only way you can ask this question
there would be an answer. Now, the way you are asking the question
you have not realized the immensity of the question.
Whatever I say, already you have some conclusions from the
scriptures, isn't it?
You have, I know. Now, if I say something anyway
you will get into more of such nonsense. Now, you are coming with the scriptures and
saying all this things, now you will say more foolish things
because this you cannot know because I tell you something.
If you know the pain of not knowing then I can make you know it.
If you still do not know the pain of not knowing, me telling you after your death your soul
will go and sit on top of this building
is not going to liberate you in any way, isn't it?
Isn't it so? Fairytale it is.
Now, I'm telling you do you want a story or do you want to know it?
Say yes or no? Do you want to know it or do you want a story
about it? Maybe you cannot understand,
you can only experience it. Are you willing to experience it?
I am not going to kill you. Don't worry I am not thinking on those lines
but are you will… (All laugh) are you willing to experience it?
So if you are willing to experience how much of your life are you willing to give
to make this happen to yourself? now just to learn the alphabet,
ABC, just to learn to read and write,
just to learn to maybe write software how many years did you invest?
20 years? But it should be there, right?
See, how many years have you invested in just learning to read, write and earn a living,
how many years? 20 years of education?
Yes. For something as simple as survival
just to earn your food and living, 20 years you have invested and
you are still investing further, isn't it? To know the very source of who you are,
to know what is the basis of your creation how much time are you willing to invest?
You think about that, you tell me, then I will tell whether it's possible or
not. (Laughs) to put proper inputs to just write software
for a dumb computer it took 20 years. To go beyond all your limitations
and know the very source of who you are how much time are you willing to invest to
get the proper inputs I am asking?
See, I want you to understand what is your reality right now,
don't just bullshit yourself, isn't it?
I am not saying you got to come or don't come but
you must know where you belong. You don't believe all kinds of nonsense
about yourself. The most important thing in your life is
even if you can't afford to be straight with anybody in the world
at least with this one person you must be straight, isn't it?
This is something that you owe to yourself, every human being.
If you don't do this your life is definitely a tragedy.
It doesn't matter what's happening with it or not happening with it,
if you don't know how to be straight to yourself you have wasted your life before you live
it. Before it starts it's over, isn't it?
So, please just, I want you to look at it Right now you are asking big questions.
I am talking about the possibility The reason… the reason why
something which is just the natural fruit of life
what you call as enlightenment if you allow yourself,
if you allow life to happen to you in its utmost possibility
it's a natural fruit; it's a natural flowering.
It is not something that you are doing to deviate your life to some
other point; it is a natural process of reaching there.
In spite of that why it is happening to a large number of people,
why it doesn't happen at all except a few individuals in the world is
simply because of this – because we are not straight with it.
We don't even know whether we are willing to go for it or not, isn't it?
It's not happened not because it's difficult, it's not happened because
you are not willing to give yourself to it, that's all.
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