nothing is more exhilarating than offshore and near shore fly-fishing I
love it being out of sight al and big fish in open water sometimes it's
intimidating but no form of fly-fishing is more physical and more exciting than
offshore and near shore fly-fishing join us
because this is the way
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if you think it's daunting fishing close to shore in shallow water imagine what
it's like when you're miles from land in shallow water you've got structure
you've got fires you've got points you got rocks you got weed beds offshore you
have none of these things so it's a whole different ballgame luckily there
are things that tip you after the presence of game fish offshore to help
narrow it down of course a knowledgeable captain is critical as they always know
where fish are expected to make an appearance but if you're in your own
boat you can still narrow the odds I asked my friend captain Mike worki to
explain rips and why they hold fish Mike we've got a rip out here so what what
why are the fish here how's a rip form and why are the fish here and where do
you look around a rip right now we're fishing in about 53 feet
of water and behind us here we have a rip and the rocks come up three four
feet and the water is coming in so the waters rushing up over the over the
rocks creating a rip and we get rough water
right right through here and these fish were just setting up on downside of that
and all the sand eels come up over that bar these fish are setting up in this
and it's a little bit deeper water hitting the sand eels as they're on the
surface rips tell you a food-rich bit of shallow water is present which creates a
place where squid shrimp and especially bait fish get trapped where game fish
can corral them and pick them off so look for fish feeding anywhere along a
rip or just try casting there because it's a high percentage spot and
otherwise open water birds are also a tip-off to feeding fish when game fish
push baitfish up against the surface in open water Birds quickly spot them and
pick off wounded bait fish and those swimming just under the surface watch
for birds that suddenly wheel and change direction
and when they begin diving to the water you know game fish are not far away in
general the bigger the bird the bigger the bait fish so if only turns are
working the bait fish the prey are probably small and if gulls join the
party you can suspect that bigger bait fish
are squid you got this in it's time for a beer
even when you know Fisher in the area sometimes you need to narrow the odds
even more because the fish might be roving wide areas and you can only
effectively cover a circle of about 70 feet around a boat with a fly rod one
way to get close to fish is to run and gun chasing schools of fish breaking the
surface but you got to be careful to stay outside of the school of feeding
fish because if you run a boat right over a school of feeding fish they'll go
deep and then feed somewhere else or you have to bring the fish closer to the
boat you can Chum with live or dead bait fish
crabs or shrimp either whole fish or cut-up fish are thrown off the stern of
the boat to attract fish that might not normally get into casting range so what
we're doing here is we're chumming for these fish we've got some tuna over here
some skipjacks maybe some yellow fins and we're coming off the stern of the
boat and I've got a big white fly and I'm just kind of letting it dead drift
in the Chum and hopefully a tuna will come by and grab it
I'm just gradually letting line out Jason Franklin and Greg Vincent have
done a lot of this tuna fishing here off Grand Bahama Island and they found that
this is the best way to do with a floating line and just a dead drifted
fly in the jump not stripped unless the fish actually come up and start busting
yeah typically the flies allowed to sink naturally without any added motion but
sometimes fishing a Chum slick can be caught on poppers which is a lot more
fun some people don't like to fish in Chum slicks but it's hard to argue with
the results another method which is as exciting for the helper as the angler is
to tease the fish closer to the boat by casting a hookless plug when the plug
gets close to the boat the helper Yanks the plug from the water and the fly
caster casts in the same spot it looks easy but it requires precise timing and
pinpoint casting in offshore fly fishing as with any other kind of salt
fly-fishing you want to experiment with retrieves and it's probably best to
start with a rapid retrieve because the big fish are chasing bait fish they're
chasing squid and those things are really booking they're trying to get out
of there and they got nowhere to hide except using their speed so start with a
fast retrieve try a slow one if that doesn't work try an erratic one but you
got experiment with all different kinds of retrieves before you crack the code
sorry Zack try both a conventional strip in the hand over hand retrieve into a
stripping basket each gives different actions to the fly from a boat it's even
more important to keep that rod tip low or in the water because you're further
above the water than if you were waiting and the strip strike is essential being
so far above the water the hooking angle is really compromised if you raise the
rod tip to strike when you're offshore in a boat you want to use a heavier fly
rod a 9 10 11 or 12 you need the muscle you need the butt section of that rod to
fight a fish when it gets close to boat if it sounds you need to be able to lift
the fish and you also need a heavier line you want that 9 or 10 or 11 or 12
weight line because you're throwing bigger flies generally offshore and you
almost always have wind so 9 10 11 12 and 8 weight is a little risky once you
get offshore really want a bigger reel when you're off shore fly fishing you
need a strong drag because these fish can go a long way and you need a reel
that's big enough to hold at least 200 yards of backing you need a large arbor
reel also because the fish may run at you and you want to be able to gather
that line quickly large arbor reels with their bigger diameter will bring inline
quicker you should also get the best reel you can afford with the strongest
drag system a fast running fish can literally heat up an inferior drag
system so much that the drag surface is melt and the reel begins to smoke choose
your fly rod based on the size of the fish and the size of the flies you'll be
using 9 weight is fine for fish up to about 25 pounds but if you plan on
casting a giant popper all day you might want to choose a heavier 10 or 11 weight
line to push that big fly out there 12 weight rods are reserved for fighting
very big fish like tarpon and tuna and fly rods are even made up to a massive
14 weight pool cue which is used for marlin and other giant fish
you can do some fishing one offshore with a floating line especially when the
fish are right at the surface but sinking lines are actually more
versatile for most fishing other than with poppers so often when you're
fishing a rip you use a sinking line even though the fish look like they're
on top you want to get down a little bit below the waves and sometimes the bigger
fish are deep so when you're fishing a sinking line you want to cast it as far
as you can and then strip it back to you carefully usually fairly rapidly and
then you've got to come in you've got to come in to about twenty or thirty feet
cuz you can't lift that sinking line off the water very easily so you can't try
to lift can't try to lift 40 or 50 feet and then you make two quick false casts
and shoot the line sinking lines go very well into the wind because they're dense
they shoot into the wind really well when you're fishing a sinking line
they're very versatile because if you start stripping right away the fly only
rides about this far below the surface if you if you wait the line will get
deeper and then you can fish down below sinking lines don't area lies quite as
well as floating lines you want to throw a little bit more open loop open up your
arc and you want a minimum of false casts so if you can get away with it
make one cast and shoot as much line as you can
there are many types of sinking lines probably the best are full sinking lines
which come in various sync rates from an inch per second to almost 8 inches per
second sync rates vary a lot so you should take the state and sync rates as
guidelines only the exact sync rate of your fly depends on current salinity the
line size you're using and the water resistance of the fly one of my favorite
sinking lines really my go-to line in saltwater offshore is a depth charge
line this line has a very fast sinking tip with an intermediate weight running
line the running line is very thin and stays close to the surface so you can
pick up for another cast and it shoots really well especially into the wind
because the line is very thin and dense for a given weight if fish are really
close to the surface a clear tip line is often a good choice this kind of line
has a clear slow sinking or intermediate weight tip with floating running line
the slow sinking tip gets the line in flight just below the waves and keeps
tension on the line but the floating line lets you pick up and make a quick
cast when you need to if you begin retrieving immediately you can even fish
surface poppers with this line when you're fishing a sinking line like this
you want to keep your leader short the reason is that you're fishing a sinking
line to get your fly down and a leader a long leader like a nine-footer would
tend to boy the fly up above the bottom so to keep the fly riding at the same
level as your sinking line keep the leader short 6 feet or under you can use
it you can use a knotless leader a nodded leader or you can even use a
straight piece of say 20 pound monofilament because you're not talking
about delicacy here you're talking about just keeping the fly riding behind the
fly line fish are not typically as picky about flies in open water as they seem
to be more opportunistic when ranging in the open ocean of course if you see bait
fish or squid jumping from the water as fish feet or if a fish you catch spits
out some prey you can tell what length and color they are
and that's the best place to start remember it's not the hook size that
matters in saltwater flies it's the length and that's why all saltwater
flies you see listed in the Orvis website have both hook size and length
stated most saltwater flies incorporate a lot of white but sometimes it pays to
go to a color that's different than what the fish are feeding on for instance few
things in nature are fluorescent chartreuse but that's one of the most
productive colors for saltwater flies in low light black is actually the most
visible against the surface so an early morning late evening and at night black
flies are very popular almost as important as size and saltwater flies is
the shape or profile of the fly some bait fish like sand eels or needle fish
are long and skinny some like silver sides and anchovies are medium bodied
and fish like mullet and herring are very deep bodied it helps to match the
profile of the prevalent bait fish when choosing your fly's surface flies are a
blast in saltwater because you can see everything that happens and strikes are
dramatic
Jim I noticed using a loop not on these flies right right is that what what's
the purpose of using a loop instead of a clinch now
well the clinch na do you have a straight line and if you're using 15 to
20 pound mono as your tip it that's a fairly stiff tip it so if you're tying a
clinch line you've got a straight line to the loop of the hook and it doesn't
allow the flight to have that much action if you use the loop nut as you've
gotten here you know when you pause that fly on your retrieve the current the
wind or whatever will move that one day yes right so it gives it more swing if
you will and I think it's the most effective not to use okay and you use
the non-slip mono loop right as your loop knot that's right
Rich's overhand knot through the eye back through the overhand five times
around exactly right and frankly I only turn it around twice on the standing
line and then I test it and it works really okay yeah years of years is more
like a home road more like Oh probably yeah right run oh and that works yeah
two times around it's it's strong good yeah
it's heavier yeah heavier line it would have your line you probably get away
with yeah
fighting a big fish from a boat fire offshore takes all your skill and a
little luck you never know what might happen so be prepared for anything the
aggressiveness of your strip strike should depend on the size of the fish
and the strength of your tippet for softer mouthed species like striped bass
bluefish or Dorado it doesn't take much to set the hook for fish with hard boney
mouths like tarpon or tuna it helps to make a more aggressive strike by
combining a long strip with a down in sideways movement of the butt of the rod
for the hard mouth species as long as they don't immediately begin a screaming
run many fly fishers give the fish multiple
jabs to make sure the hook is set firmly when your saltwater fly fishing it's
important to keep that rod tip low when you're stripping a fly in when you're
striking the fish you have more control over the line when the rod tip is low
when you want to strike a fish it's just one long strike one long strip that's
called a strip strike and then once you feel the fish then you can raise the rod
tip and play the fish if you do have problems with raising the rod tip as you
wouldn't route fishing because it's a tough reflex to get out of it it's
perfectly okay to put your rod tip right down in the water that way you keep that
rod too low and you can't really strip strike you can't really raise that rod
tip because you've got you've got resistance on the rod tip so it really
helps you to strip strike drag should be set and tested before you start fishing
because trying to adjust a drag setting when a fish is running can often result
in a loss fish when you suddenly put too much pressure on the fish once a fish
reaches the end of its run begin to apply as much pressure as you dare to
turn it the bigger the fish the more pressure
you should apply and the pressure should be constant as long as the fish is not
running if a fish gets a chance to rest it'll only prolong the fight and risk
not being able to revive the fish but a fish is right below the boat like this
you want to try to keep that rod from gumming above your waist so you want to
give a quick lift and then reel and then a quick lift and then reel and never
bring that rod up too high so fly rod just isn't meant when a fish is right
under the boat to be brought right up here over your head
another thing you shouldn't do when fighting a decent-sized fish like this
that we all do we should is to put your hand on the rod here to get extra
leverage because a fly rod isn't meant to be flexed from here it's meant to be
flexed all the way down into the handle and we all do it but you should because
you can break her out that way once a fish gets close to the boat use side
pressure to turn it the fish will go wherever you point its head keep the
fish off balance and you'll tire it quicker when you switch the rod from
side to side do it slowly and smoothly otherwise you might introduce slack in
the line and lose the fish for fish that frequently jumped like tarpon barracuda
or mako sharks always bow to the fish when it jumps lower the rod tip quickly
and point it at the fish to introduce slack into the line if a big fish lands
on a tight line or leader there's a good chance the leader will break oh you put
on that you put on that little dog yeah I put on a little surf candy caught this
fish on a very small very small baitfish I mean talk about you know big fish big
fly but sometimes just a little that's the kind of bait fish he's eating it's
no different releasing a fish offshore as it is in any other place except you
don't want to hang too far over the side gently revived a fish you intend to
release until it can take off under its own power you know it's rare to have a
day off shore without some wind so let's visit Pete quit sir for some
timely tips on casting big flies in the wind hi I'm Pete cutter from the Orbitz
fly fishing schools today we're going to talk about casting and windy conditions
but there are some things we can do to help deal with that wind a wind coming
at you a wind coming at your nan casting shoulder went coming at your casting
shoulder or behind you there are different casts we can do for each one
of these situations let's start off with a wind coming
directly at you a wind coming straight at you is not the worst wind to deal
with there's a couple things we can do the first is make a low angle cast and
get below the wind if we can send that fly out underneath the wind we can
deliver that fly to our target watch shorebirds when they're flying around at
the beach they almost fly between the waves there's a lot less wind down low
another option is to make a high angle back cast and drive that fly down
through the wind down to the water you don't get the best presentation when
you're making that cast but it can help deal with those windy conditions when
you're dealing with a wind coming at your non casting shoulder I'm
right-handed so if that wind was blowing out my left shoulder what I might have
to do is compensate for that wind a little bit
I can send that fly a little bit more to the left of that target and hopefully
that wind will blow it on track or just like with that wind coming at me I can
cast below the wind making that low angle cast and getting that fly out to
target if I have a win blowing at my back that wind can be a little more
difficult than you think you want to make a low angle back cast and get that
line underneath the wind make sure that line gets out nice and straight then we
can make that higher angle forward cast the cast almost looks a little bit like
an oval we're gonna make a low back cast bring the rod tip up than a high forward
cast to deliver that fly out to our target the worst one you can deal with
is a wind blowing at your casting shoulder when you're dealing with that
wind that can in some cases blow that fly right into you hooking yourself I
fucked myself in the neck in the ear in the back even in the rear end it's not
very comfortable so there's a couple techniques one technique is actually
taking that rod tip and angling it over your left hand shoulder make a high
angle cast and get that line off your shoulder
above you one friend used to describe it as combing your hair comb your hair and
that's going to keep that fly off of that left shoulder another technique is
to switch hands practice casting with your non-dominant hand I practice all
the time and it really does help in those windy conditions but perhaps the
easiest technique to deal with those windy conditions at your casting
shoulder is to simply turn your back to the wind and make a back cast delivering
that fly to the fish that's going to keep that fly well away from you
keep you nice and safe and help you catch more fish
I really love the visceral aspect of fishing offshore for the big fish it's
always intense like stuff happens so fast and often much of the fishing is
visual which really adds a lot to it if you crave really big fish on your fly
rod and want to test your wits and your muscles with the biggest and fastest
fish you can catch on a fly run then hop on a boat and get offshore this show has
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