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>> [GAVEL]

>> CHAIR PELOWSKI: THE HOUR

OF 1245

HAVING ARRIVED I WILL CALL THE GREATER MINNESOTA JOBS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FINANCE DIVISION TO ORDER. WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE COMMITTEE. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH

WHAT ARE THE NON-FORMAL RULES. THERE WILL BE NO

FORMAL POSTED RULES FOR THE NON-FORMAL RULES ARE THIS BUT WE WILL START ON TIME.

WE WILL NOT PASS ANY BILL OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE UNLESS IT

IS IN SHAPE FOR THE

NEXT COMMITTEE FOR

THE FLOOR. SO I'M GOING TO ONE MEMBERS NOW; IF YOU HAVE A BILL OR A AMENDMENT AN

D YOU SAY; WE WILL FIX IT IN THE

NEXT COMMITTEE; WE WILL LAY

THE BILL OR THE AMENDMENT; OVER. UNTIL

YOU DECIDE HOW IT CAN

BE FIXED IN THIS COMMITTEE BUT

NO BILL IS LEAVING

THIS COMMITTEE IN ANYTHING OTHER

THAN IT IN THE SHAPE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR THE FLOOR FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE. I WOULD

REQUEST MEMBERS NOT BRING FOOD TO THE COMMITTEE. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE TRAITS. WE DON'T NEED TO EAT IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. IF YOU NEED SOMETHING TO DRINK IS FULLY UNDERSTANDABLE. THAT'S FINE; BRING THAT BUT WE

DON'T NEED TO EAT. PARTICULARLY;

ON TELEVISIONIT IS

EXTREMELY ANNOYING WATCHING SOMEONE FILLED HER MOUTH WHILE

ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS TRYING

TO TESTIFY. SO THOSE ARE THE SIMPLISTIC RULES AND I WILL ADD THIS ONE. THE OTHER RULES WILL BE DEFINED OPERATIVELY DURING

THE COURSE OF

THE SESSION. SO IF SOMETHING COMES UP

WE WILL HANDLE IT. WE WILL HANDLE IT IN COMMITTEE. WE WILL TRY TO TREAT

EVERYONE FAIRLY.

WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT HERE

I'M FULLY CAPABLE OF RECESSING THE COMMITTEE OR ADJOURNING

SO WE CAN SETTLE OUR DIFFERENCES AND

COME BACK AND MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE

GOING. SO WITH THAT THE CHAIR IS DOING THE FIRST PRESENTATION. MY VICE CHAIR IS NOT HERE SO REPRESENTATIVE POPPE; YOU WILL GET THE

GAVEL BECAUSE THE VICE CHAIR IS

NOT HERE.

MME. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ONE OF THE CHARGES OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS

TO REINVENT ONE OF THE THINGS

THAT WE FOR THE VICE CHAIR FINALLY IS HERE. I

JUST ANNOUNCED MR. VICE CHAIR; WE DO START ON

TIME AND I HAD TO TURN THE GAVEL OVER

TO REPRESENTATIVE POPPE BECAUSE THE VICE CHAIR WAS

NOT PRESENT. SO IN THE FUTURE; I MAY

NEED YOU >> I APOLOGIZE. I DO

LOCAL ISSUE. >> CHAIR PELOWSKI:

APOLOGY IS ACCEPTED ARE OF COURSE THE WEATHER IS EXTENDED WHERE THE CHARGES OF THIS

COMMITTEE IS TO REINVENT SOMETHING THAT EXISTED

FOR APPROXIMATELY A DECADE

IN THE

MINNESOTA HOUSE. THE MANY SESSIONS IN THE MANY SESSIONS WENT FROM 19871997.

THERE WERE 14 OF THEM. THEY LASTED APPROXIMATELY THREE DAYS ALL AROUND THE STATE AND IN THE

METROPOLITAN AREA AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I'M GOING TO

GO OVER THE HISTORY OF THE MANY

SESSION. THIS WILL BE POSTED

ON OUR WEBSITE FOR YOU TO REVIEW

AND IT IS A WORK IN PRICE. NOW THE CHAIR CREATED THIS. SO THE CHAIR TAKES FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY ERROR AND I KNOW THERE'S ONE SPELLING ERROR IN YOUR PACKET BUT WE DID CATCH IT INSTRUCTED ON PRESENTATION IT SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PRESENTATION; THIS IS PROBABLY THE COLDEST DAY OF THE YEAR. SO WE WILL START WITH SWEATERS.

THE WINONA MANY SESSION

AT SWEATERS FOR

HOUSE MEMBERS AND YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE

THEY WERE PRODUCED BY

WINONA WITT NET. BLACK SWEATERS

FOR MEMBERS WHITE SWEATERS

FOR HOUSE AND THE SWEATERS WERE WON BY THE THREE DAYS NO BILL MARX IS

NOT HERE TO BILL MARX IS FROM WINONA. BILL MARX WAS PART OF THE MANY SESSION THAT WAS HELD IN WINONA.. BILL MARX STILL HAS

HIS WHITE SWEATER.YOU

ALSO SEE THE BANNER THAT IS THERE

ONE OF THE OTHER CHARGES OF

THIS COMMITTEE IS TO LINKTHESE

MANY SESSIONS WITH

THE POSSIBILITY OF THE

GOVERNOR HAVING HIS STATE OF THE STATE;

AGAIN; OUTSIDE OF ST. P

AUL. WINONA WAS THE FIRST

COMMUNITY IN THE HISTORY OF

THE STATETO HAVE A STATE OF THE STATE OUTSIDE OF

ST. PAUL. AND

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS BUT THERE WERE SOME OTHER RAMIFICATIONS THAT ARE MUCH MORE SUBSTANDARD

SUBSTANTIAL THE MARKETS IF YOU TAKE A LOOK YOU CAN SEE THE BENEFIT YOU CAN SEE THE SWEATERS. YOU COULD BE ONE BY

THOSE SWEATERS BY JUST LOOKING

AT THEM. SO THESE ARE THE 14

MANY SESSIONS. NOW EACH OF THE

MANY SESSIONS HAS A

SESSION REPORT

WHICH I RESEARCH KNOW WHAT TO THINK A LEGISLATIVE

REFERENCE LIBRARIAN AT HOUSE RESEARCH. YOU'LL SEE LINKS TO THESE IN THE PRESENTATION. NOW; IF ANY OF YOU

REPRESENT ANY OF THESE AREAS I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU GO BACK AND YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE ISSUES

THAT WERE DISPLAYED DURING

THOSE MANY--SESSIONS OF THAT DECADE.

THERE'S BEEN SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE STILL GET TTO BE

RESOLVED. NOW THIS

IS A BLOWUP OF

THE MANY -- SESSION. FIRST ONE WAS IN

MANKATO. JOHN -- WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE AND

I ROOMED WITH JOHN -- FOR 20 YEARS AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE STORIES OF

JOHN DORNAN AND I ROOMED TOGETHER OTHER THAN TO SAY HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST ECONOMICAL INDIVIDUALS I HAVE EVER MET.

EVEN TO THE POINT OF STEALING

EVERY OTHER ONE OF MY SHOWER CURTAIN

HANGERS BECAUSE

HE FORGOT TO BRING HIS OWN. SOTHE MANKATO

MANY SESSIONAND YOU CAN

SEE HERE THIS IS A HIGHLIGHT OF THE MANKATO MANY SESSION. YOU CAN SEE PAULSANTANA CAN. SO YOU

KNOW PAUL.

PAUL IS NOW WITH OF MINNESOTA PRIVATE

COLLEGE CONDOM PAUL MECHANIC WORK

FOR THE SPEAKER DOES.

YOU SEEBOB AND YOU SEE PAUL AND THERE'S ANOTHER FELLOW NEXT TO HIM THAT YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE FROM AN

EARLIER TIME AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT A PAINTING ON THE

GREEN ELEVATOR AND I THINK

THIS IS

[INAUDIBLE] NEAR MANKATO AND WERE ALL >> REPRESENTATIVE METSA: THESE LEGISLATIVE REPORTS ARE INTERESTING BECAUSE WE DID GO OUT LITERALLY EVERYWHERE. SO

T

HE COMMITTEE'S WENT OUT; WE HAD MAYBE A DOZEN-15 AND 100 NUMBERS FOUND OUT ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA FOR

THREE DAYS. THESE ARE THE LINKS AND THESE LINKS

WILL BE ACTIVE ONCE I POST ON MY WEBSITE SO YOU CAN GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT

THESE PARTICULAR

LEGISLATOR REPORTS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN

YOUR AREA. NOW THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED

IN WINONA. I AM GOING TO BE

VERY PARTISAN HERE IN PROMOTING

WINONA PRODUCT. SO HERE IS A WINONA COMPANY; WHEN CRAFTED IF YOU KNOW WHAT WINDOW CRAFTERS; IF YOU WATCH THE SUPER BOWL; ALL OF THE

TENANTS COME ALL THE MATERIAL FOR THE SUPER BOWL; FOR THE RYDER CUP; FOR ANY NATIONAL SPORTING EVENT IS PRODUCED USUALLY IN WINONA. THEY PRODUCED A LITTLE KEYCHAIN WHICH YOU SEE HERE. YOU ALSO NOTICE THAT THE PAPER HAD AN

OUTLINE OF ALL THE HEARINGS OVER THE THREE DAYS. I WANT

TO STRESS AT THE BOTTOM;

PRESTON; WAYNESBORO AND BYRON.

THEY WERE IN VIRGIL

JOHNSON DISTRICT. SO THIS ISN'T JUST

A DFL OR REPUBLICAN

MINI-SESSIONS IT WENT EVERYWHERE AND WE HAD

THE ROCHESTER REPRESENTATIVE WHO

JUST ARRIVED

. THIS WAS A FOUR-DAY MINI SESSION; THREE DAYS IN OUR AREA AND THEN

ONE DAY

IN ROCHESTER. YOU CAN THANK DAVE BISHOP FOR THAT ONE.NOW

THE ITEMS

THAT WERE USED TO PROMOTE THE MANY SESSIONS WERE VARIOUS. HERE ARE

TWO. NOTE;A TURTLE. THE TURTLE IS A

NATIVE AMERICAN PIPESTONE TURTLE.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY

THE SIZE OF THE STICKER AT THE BOTTOM IS THERE. THIS WAS IN WORTHINGTON. IT WAS PUT BY OUR DINNER PLATES

FOR DINNER. THE DINNER WAS SORT OF

DARK PEOPLE SAW THE TURTLE AND

I THOUGHT IT

WAS CHOCOLATE. THEY WERE PICKING IT UP AND BITING INTO THE PIPESTONE TURTLE

AND THAT AN ANNOUNCEMENT HAD TO BE MADE; DON'T BITE INTO THE

PIPESTONE TURTLE. SO THIS IS

AN FYI. IF

WE DO REINVENT THESE WORDS TO MAKE SURE WE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CHOCOLATE AND PIPESTONE FOR FUTURE MANY SESSIONS. THE OTHER IIS A

RATHER

REMARKABLE FROG THIS IS A TREE FROG IT WAS THE ACTUAL SI

ZE AND NOTE THE COMPANY THAT DID GET THIS COMMITTEE

STILL EXIST. IF YOU WATCH THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL OR IF YOU WATCH NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC; THIS IS THE COMPANY THAT RE-CREATES ALL OF

THOSE MARVELOUS MAJOR THINGS FROM PAST

AND PRESENT. THEY HAD CREATED THIS AND

NOTE THAT WHILE WE DID GET THE

STATE MONEY FOR THIS; THE

CONGRESSIONAL EARMARK

DIDN'T HAPPEN SO WE CAN BLAME CONGRESS FOR NOT HAVING THIS

PARTICULAR ITEM. THE NEXT ARE A SERIES

OF ARTICLES FROM

THE PAPER AND HERE IT SAYS NEARLY 100 OF

THE HOUSES

103 FORMULAS ARE EXPECTED FOR A

MINUTE SESSION. WE ARE HOPING THE MANY SESSION WILL BE VERY HELPFUL AS MAJORITY

[INAUDIBLE] AND SETTING THE AGENDA FOR THE 1990

LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I NOTICED SOME OF YOU; AND 1990 MIGHT AS WILL BE

1066 OR SOME OTHER ARBITRARY

DATE BUT IT ISN'T THAT

LONG AGO AND AS YOU SEE THE RESULTS OF THE MANY SESSION STILL

EXIST. BOB -- IS HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER. YOU WILL SEE HE WILL SOON BECOME SPEAKER. THE SIT

ES FOR THE

LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THIS IS WHERE BECOMES POLITICAL AND I KNOW IT'S MISSPELLED ON YOUR HANDOUT BUT I CORRECTED

IT HERE.

SITES FOR THE LEGISLATIVE MANY SESSIONS ARE SELECTED MAINLY FOR POLITICAL

FORTIFICATION ACCORDING TO AN INDEPENDENT REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER WHO ASKED NOT TO BE EDIFIED.

THE LEGISLATURE

NOTED THAT THE MANY SESSIONS OR VERSIONS OF

ADDED HOWEVER;

THAT HIS PARTY WOULD PROBABLY USE THEM THE

SAME WAY IF THEY WERE

IN CONTROL. TH

E INTENT OF THIS IS NOT TO BE PARTISAN. THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO TAKE THE COMMITTEES OUT

AND SPREAD OUT IN AN AREA WHERE WE C

AN UNDERSTAND FULLY FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WITH THE

ISSUES ARE

AND AS YOU SAW IN WINONA AS WE SAW IN THE

OTHER AREAS. WE DID THAT AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO WE CAN

FIGHT PLAY PARTISAN GAMES WITHOUT AND

ECHOES BACK 30 YEARS; TOO; BUT I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD NOT. THE IMPACTOF THESE

IS HUGE. YOU CAN SEE HERE

WE ARE LOOKING AT AN

AVIATION PRODUCT.. ONE OF

THE BIG STRANDS OF HAVING THE MINI SESSION IS BEEN ABLE TO GO ON SITE AND

SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE PASSING LEGISLATION FOUR. IN THIS CASE; THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE WANTED IN AN AVIATION CENTER BECAUSE AVIATION WAS ALL THE RAGE

DURING THE 1989 MANY SESSION AND HERE

IS ONE THAT'S MADE OUT OF METAL AND COMPOSITE.

AS HE WAS A COMPOSITES WILL BECOME VERY IMPORTANT IN BOTH OF MANY SESSION AND IN

THE STATE OF THE STATE. SO HERE WE KEEP

SURPRISING OURSELVES WITH THE SUCCESS OF EVERY

MINI SESSION. IT CERTAINLY IS THE SMOOTHEST FUNCTIONING SESSION EVER

HOUSE SPEAKER BOB [INAUDIBLE]. HE PROBABLY SAID THAT AT EVERY MEETING.

BUT IT ONLY COUNTS IF HE SAYS IT

IN YOUR DISTRICT. SO AGAIN THERE

WAS COMPETITION BETWEEN

THESE AREAS ON HOW TO HAVE THE BEST

MINI SESSION. HERE IS

ANOTHER ONE.

TAKE A LEGISLATURE TO DO BETTER. WE ACTUALLY HAD LEGISLATORS GOING TO BE POEMS FOR DINNER

.. NOW THIS IS A CAUTIONARY TALE. WE HAD SOME

MEMBERS WHOWE KNEW HAD COLORFUL LANGUAGE. WE WERE TOLD THAT IF THEY WENT TO DINNER PARTICULARLY IN-HOME SMALL CHILDREN; BE EXPECTED THEM NOT TO USE THE

COLORFUL LANGUAGE WHEN THEY WERE IN THE

PERSON'S HOME. BUT NOTICE THE OTHER COMMENTS. EXPOSURE TO WINONA IS PHENOMENAL. FOR SOUTHEASTERN MINNESOTA THEY HAVE A VISION AND OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT

TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS AND

CONCERNS WITH LEGISLATORS IS PHENOMENAL.

I THINK IN BACK OF ME IS THE

LOBBYIST FOR THE CHAMBER

OF COMMERCE. [INAUDIBLE /

OFF MICROPHONE] IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS USED TO BE A STAFFER HERE NOW HE WORKS FOR THE CHAMBER. TOM

-- WINONA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND I WILL TALK A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THEY WERE SET UP. I COCHAIRED

THE WINONA MINI SESSION WITH

GARY EVANSWAS THE VICE PRESIDENT AT WINONA STATE BUT

THE CHAMBER; THE CITY THE COUNTY

WERE ALL INVOLVED IN SETTING THIS THING UP. IT TOOK US

FOUR MONTHS

TO SET IT UP. TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE READY

TO GO WHEN THE

LEGISLATORS ARRIVED AND WE HAD PLACES FOR EVERYBODY

TO STAY

IN COMMITTEE HEARINGS AND WE HAD COMMITTEE HEARINGS

OF SUBSTANCE. SO I AM GOING TO

EMPHASIZE HERE THAT THINGS LIKE

THE CHAMBER SHOULD

BE USED IF WE ARE HAVING MANY SESSIONS IN

THE FUTURE. NOTICE

THE OTHER THE LOCAL COST HERE WAS

ABOUT 3000-$4000. NOW THIS IS AGAIN 30 YEARS AGO.

BUT THERE ARE SOME COST TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY

FOR THIS. WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOUSE COSTS; SOON.

SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE FROM GOD THE ROCHESTER REFERENCES HERE. ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING

HEARINGS WAS IN ROCHESTER. ON

A NEW STATE FLAG.

NOW THE TWO STATE FLAGS YOU SEE THERE ARE

ACTUALLY MINE.

THEY WANT ME TO CARRY

THE BILL. IF THERE'S TIME IN COMMITTEE I COULD EXPLAIN WHY I DID NOTCARRY THE BILL

BUT REPRESENTATIVE

GOOD NECK FROM ROCHESTER

DID AND THIS IS STILL AN ISSUE

; CHANGING MINNESOTA'S STATE FLAG. SO THE FIRST STATE FLAG WAS REJECTED

FOR A LOT

OF REASONS AND THEN THEY CAME UP WITH THE SECOND THE SECOND WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ACTUALLY HEARD IN ROCHESTER. SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE;; YOU CAN SEE THAT

THE SECOND SLIDE HAS A HEARING AND YOU

HAVE THE FORMER

STATE REP; JOHN ANDERSON; YOU CAN SEE I

THINK THAT

[INAUDIBLE] BACKGROUND AND

FILL THE AYE THING WAS PRESENT IN THE BILL. ALSO NOTICE

THE WINDOW LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR 2018 TOOK UP THE FLAG BILL

AND A STUDENT FROM ROCHESTER

OR FROM [INAUDIBLE] PETERSON TOOK UP THE BILL AND GOT AS FAR AS THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE WHERE IT DIED. WENT TO TAXES AND WENT

TO ENVIRONMENT BUT IT DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF

IT EDUCATION. SO THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IS STILL WITH US BUT IT MIGHT COME UP IN A MINI SESSION BRING UP HERE AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE WINONA

MINI SESSION AS I THINK WE HAVE SOME BILL BOOKS THAT WERE PASSED OUT TO MEMBERS. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK

WITH THE MANY SESSION IS. THERE IS THE THANK YOU THAT WAS IN THE PAPER AND WE WANT TO REMIND MEMBERS TO

THANK EVERYONE THAT ATTENDS.

ALSO; NOTICE

I DID A LITTLE COLUMN HERE AND ASK FOR FEEDBACK AND OF COURSE ONE

OF OUR

CONSTITUENTS SAID THE LEGISLATORS SHOULD TAKE US

TO DINNER

SO THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION. INSTEAD OF US INVITING

LEGISLATORS INTO HOMES; WE SHOULD BE TAKING THEM TO DINNER. WELL YOU CAN DELETE THAT ON YOUR OWN. THE RESU

LTS. HERE YOU SEE GOVERNOR PERPICH

IN WINONA SIGNING THE 1990 BONDING BILL TO THE 1990

BONDING BILL WILL HAVE IN IT THE PURCHASE OF

BOARDS HALL FROM WHAT WAS THE OLD ST.

TERESA CAMPUS. IT WILL BECOME

THE FIRST PRESIDENCY COLLEGE

AND STILL THEE ONLY

RESIDENCY COLLEGE INSIDE

WHAT WAS THE STATE

UNIVERSITY SYSTEM AND MNSCU

SYSTEM ANOTHER MNSTATE SYSTEM. THIS BECAME A

CASH COW FOR

WINONA STATE.IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A RESIDENCY COLLEGES; THE STUDENTS LIVE IN A FACILITY

WHERE THEY NOT ONLY HAVE DORM ROOMS BUT THEY ALSO TAKE

THEIR CLASSES. THIS WAS AN

EXPERIMENT BY PRES. KRUGER AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A

VERY [INAUDIBLE] NOTICE AND A BISHOP IS THERE BECAUSE THERE WERE LITTLE ITEMS

FROM ROCHESTER

THAT WERE ALSO THERE AT

THE TIME. THIS; I JUST ACQUIRED. NOW I KNOW IT'S

DIFFICULT TO READ YOU CAN READ IT AT YOUR LEISURE BUT WE WERE SEARCHING FOR A COST TO A MINI SESSION. NOW WE SAW THE

LOCAL COST. OF 3000-$4000

FOR WINONA. THESE ARTICLES HAVE OUR

FIRST LOOK AT WHAT THE

HOUSE COSTS

AND APPARENTLY; ONE OF THESE MANY SESSIONS IN 1995

COST ABOUT $50;000. SO THIS

IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE ITEM AND

I SUSPECT THAT SOME OF OUR

COMMITTEE BUDGETS INCLUDING THIS ONE WILL BE USED TO SUPPORT

MANY SESSIONS SHOULD WE GO OUT. SO THIS IS FOR READING LATER. IN FACT; I JUST GOT THIS

MONDAY SO

THIS IS INCORPORATED RELATIVELY LATE. THE NEXT THING WE WILL TALK ABOUT ARE THE STATE OF

THE STATE. THE FIRST STATE OF THE STATE AS YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM

WAS ON FEBRUARY 9; 1988 IN WINONA.

WAS GOVERNOR PERPICH COMING

TO WINONA

FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OF COURSE THAT'S THE NAME OF THIS COMMITTEE

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S HOW WE TIE ALL

THIS TOGETHER BY THE WAY THERE IS

A HIGH-STAKES TEST ON THIS LATER. IT WILL BE IN NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR IT'S CALLED THE REELECTION. SO

LISTEN CLOSELY. NOW I HAVE TWO GRAPHICS. I HAVE A GRAPHIC FOR WINONA. I HAVE ONE FOR ROCHESTER. BECAUSE THE STATE OF THE STATE THAT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON

THESE TWO COMMUNITIES. SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE; THIS

IS A PAPER I DID BASED ON MY JOURNAL

SOME OF YOU HAVE WONDERED WHAT

THAT JOURNAL IS GOOD FOR. IT'S GOOD FOR SO MANY THINGS YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW. SO

THE JOURNAL IS A DAY BY DAY

LITERALLY EXAMINATION OF

THE PROCESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GOVERNOR PERPICH PROPOSED A COMPOSITE

ENGINEERING PROGRAM FOR WINONA STATE.

THE BILL AS IT

WENT THROUGH THE MINNESOTA HOUSE AND SENATE SIGNED BY

THE

GOVERNOR AND THE SUBSEQUENT STATE OF THE STATE WHERE THE GOVERNOR CAME DOWN TO ANNOUNCE

NOT ONLY THE

BILL BUT THERE WOULD BE A FACILITY IN THERE

WOULD BE

OTHER ADD-ONS TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING. SO THIS PAPER

I DID IN 1992WHICH OF COURSE

WOULD BE A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTERWARDS; AND YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM THIS STARTED WHEN PERPICH

VISITED WINONA ON

A CAMPAIGN[INAUDIBLE] 1986 HE WENT TO PASTOR H

ALL AND HE SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING

WITH COMPOSITE. NOW I SHOULD; MME. CHAIR; ASK THIS QUESTION

OF OUR ESTEEMED GROUP BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE VERY SHARP. WHAT IS

A COMPOSITEMATERIAL?

>> CHAIR POPPE: I BELIEVE REPRESENTATIVE

METSA GOD HAS AN ANSWER TO

THE QUESTION. >> REPRESENTATIVE LISLEGARD: I THINK

I DO MME. CHAIR. I BELIEVE IT'S WHEN YOU

PRESS DIFFERENT SHOWS TOGETHER AND IT GOES THROUGH A PROCESS AND

ITS HEATED AND IT COMES OUT THE OTHER SIDE

. >> REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI:

ADAM CHAIR; HE IS CLOSE TO A COMPOSITE MATERIAL IS THAT BUT IT'S ALSO MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

WINONA IS CONSIDERED TO BE

THE HOME OF THE FIRST

PRACTICAL USE OF CARBON FIBER IMPREGNATED IN

A RESIN TO REPLACE

METAL MATERIALS. YOU HAVE

CARS TODAY THAT ARE PRIMARILY

COMPOSITE MATERIALS

ON THE INSIDE. IF YOU SWING A GOLF CLUB IS WHEN COMPOSITE MATERIAL IF YOU SWING A RACKET YOU SWING

COMPOSITE MATERIAL. ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE

HERE INCLUDING THE [INAUDIBLE] ARE MADE FROM

COMPOSITE MATERIALS.

THERE WERE FIVE COMPANIES IN OUR AREA

THAT HAD SOME TYPE OF COMPOSITE COMPONENT IN THE WORK WITH

PASTOR HALL ON DEVELOPING A TYPE OF

TECHNIQUE THAT THEY COULD TEST THE

MATERIALS PERPICH CITED HE SAID WHAT YOU NEED IS AN

UNDERGRADUATE COMPOSITE

ENGINEERING PROGRAM AND THAT'S WHAT THIS STORY IS

ABOUT. SO HE

PROPOSED IT. IT BECAME A BILL. GOING TO

CAPITOL HILL

AND BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE. IT WAS JUST

ONE BILL CARRIED BY MYSELF

AND SEN. MORRIS AND IT WAS BACKED UP BY MATERIAL FROM WINONA STATE YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST ONE HERE; THE ANALYSIS OF THE

IMPACT OF COMPOSITE SCIENCE.

THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SECOND AND ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE CARBON FIRE MATERIAL HERE IN THE FIRST PAGE

. THE BILL WAS THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF

THE LEGISLATUREA MULTIMEDIA PREESENTATION WAS DONE. THIS IS THE PULASKI JOURNAL AGAIN. THIS IS JANUARY

14; 1987.'S ARE NOTES FOR

MY JOURNAL WILL BEGIN TO FIELD TEST THAT

MULTIMEDIA PRESENTATION. IF YOU NOTICE; THE

MULTIMEDIA PRESENTATION WAS PRODUCED BY MEDIA WORKS IN WINONA AT A COST OF $20;000.

NOWTHIS IS 1987. THAT IS $1000

A MINUTE. THAT MULTIMEDIA

IN 1987 WAS SIX STACKED

SLIDE PROJECTORS IN A STAINLESS

STEEL CONTAINER WITH DIFFERENT MOTORS

THEY WORKED

IN SEQUENCE DRIVEN BY MUSIC. IT WAS SORT OF KEN

BURNS EFFECT WHERE YOU TOOK STILL PICTURES BUT BECAUSE

YOU ARE MOVING WITH SIX IT GAVE

THE IMPRESSION

OF MOVING. NO ONE HAD EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. IT WAS CALLED THE AGE OF COMPOSITE AND I HAVE THREE SECTIONS HERE. IT BECAME OUR

BASIC TOOL FOR LOBBYING FOR THE COMPOSITE ENGINEER. NOW I HAVE A

HIT; TREASURY THE 20 MINUTE BUT I AM GOING TO

SHOW YOU IS THE BEGINNING SO YOU GET A FLAVOR FOR IT AND HAVE TO USE THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE THEY ARE

TAPED SYSTEM YOU CANNOT LINK THE SOUND FROM A NEW IPAD 3

2018 TO A SYSTEM. SO I HAVE TO TAKE THE MICROPHONE WHICH; BY THE WAY IS COMPOSITE AND

TURN IT.

>> >> [MUSIC] THE AGES

OF MAN ARE NAME BY

THE MATERIALS THAT SHIP THE TECHNOLOGIES. STONE;

BRONZE;

AND OTHERS. THE EVOLUTION CONTINUES

AS MATERIALS MAKE A

DECISIVE DIFFERENCE IS OUR

CIVILIZATION ADVANCES. ENTER; THE AGE

OF COMPOSITE. >> WE CHOOSE TO GO TO THE LOAN. WE CHOOSE TO GO TO

THE MOON

WE CHOOSE TO GO TO THE MOON IN THIS DECADE AND OTHER THINGS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE EASY BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE HARD. BECAUSE THAT GOAL WILL SERVE TO ORGANIZE AND MAKE

IT [INAUDIBLE] OF OUR ENERGIES AND SKILLS. BECAUSE THAT CHALLENGE

IS ONE THAT WE ARE WILLING

TO ACCEPT. WHEN WE ARE WILLING TO

PROPOSE AND ONE WE

WILL [INAUDIBLE] >> THIS IS A STORY

THIS [INAUDIBLE]

IT IS THE STORY OF ADVANCED COMPOSITES IN MINNESOTA

WITH CHAPTERS IN MEDICINE; TRANSPORTATION; RECREATION;

AND AEROSPACE.

IN FACT; A CHAPTER FROM NEARLY EVERY UNITED STATES

SPACE ENDEAVOR.

>> HOUSTON;

[INAUDIBLE] THE EAGLE

HAS LANDED. >> REPRESENTATIVE

PELOWSKI: SO THERE HASN'T BEEN A SPACEFLIGHT THEN OR NOW THAT DOES

NOT LAUNCH WITH A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THE MATERIAL IN THAT SPACE

VEHICLE SOURCED FROM WINONA MINNESOTA. NO EITHER

THE MATERIALS THAT ARE PUMPED INTO IT OR THE

FINAL PRODUCT

ARE PRODUCED IN THE SOUTHEASTERN MINNESOTA IN SOME

AREA. SO WITH THAT I WILL GO TO A SIMPLER MATERIAL. WE HAD

THE MULTIMEDIA. THEN WE CAME

ACROSS THIS. AN ICE FISHING ROD.

DIVERSIFIED FABRICATORS

WAS PRODUCING COMPOSITE ICE

FISHING RODS.

TO WIN AND 50 OF THESE WERE PURCHASED AND

DONATED AND THEN GIVEN TO TH

E LEGISLATORS. DUANE BENSON JUST PASSED AWAY AND WAYNE BENSON CAME IN MY OFFICE AND SAID CAN I

HAVE TWO? I WOULD LIKE ONE FOR MYSELF AND ONE FOR

MY SON. SO HE TOOK TWO AND THEN

WHEN THE BILL WAS PRESENTED IN

THE SENATE THEY HAD ALREADY USE THEM

AND EXPLAIN TO THE

SENATE COMMITTEE HOOW MANY FISH THAT HE AND HIS

SON CAUGHT WITH A COMPOSITE

ICE FISHING RODS. SO

NEVER UNDERESTIMATESMALL

LOBBYING TOOL. IT WORKS WELL. IN FACT;

[INAUDIBLE] THAT WAS DIVERSIFIED FABRICATORS. THAT WAS STAN

PROS AND STAN PROS AND WAS CONSIDERED THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL IN THE UNITED STATES COME IN THE WORLD; TO TAKE

CARBON FIBER

IMPREGNATED WITH THE RESIN AND CREATE

A SIX-INCH CHEST RING THAT USED TO BE METAL AND THE

N TEST THE COMPONENTS. SO STAN HAD DIVERSIFIED FABRICATORS. NOW ALL OF THESE COMPOSITE COMPANIES

HAVE CHANGED. HIS COMPANY NOW

IS [INAUDIBLE]. SO IF YOU ARE

A MUSICIAN AND YOU PLAY A FIDDLE

;; YOU PLAY A CELLO; YOU PLAY ANY

STRINGED INSTRUMENT; THIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE THE

[INAUDIBLE] MADE OUT OF COMPOSITE MATERIALS BUT STAN HAS SINCE PASSED AWAY. HE WAS; VERY

BY THE WAY A VERY GOOD GOLFER BUT THAT IS THE STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY BUT

THESE COMPANIES ARE NOT THE SAME AS THEY WERE 30 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE MATERIALS ARE NOT THE SAME. WE CAN THANK

THE WINONA STATE COMPOSITE

ENGINEERING PROGRAMFOR THE EVOLUTION OF SOME THESE

COMPANIES. SOHERE'S THE GOVERNOR

IN WINONA SIGNING YET ANOTHER BONDING BILL AND

NOTICE ITS 1987 AND THERE IS THE

ACTUAL BILL AND SIGNED ON THE BILL OR THE CONFERENCE

COMMITTEE MEMBERS

; LYNDON CARLSON IS ONE OF THEM ON THE COMPOSITE ENGINEERING AND WINONA

-- WINDOWS IT WAS THE FOURTH OF THE ENGINEERING SCHOOLS IN

THE STATE

UNIVERSITY SYSTEM IF THEY WERE ONLY GOING TO BE FIGURED SO WINONA HAD TO DONATE; HAD TO FIND $1 MILLION; WH

ICH THEY DID TO COME UP TO SUPPORT THE

SCHOOL. NOW THE DISCUSSION

FROM 1987-1988 WAS HOUSE THE GOVERNOR GOING TO PROMOTE THIS ONCE A BILL IS SIGNED

. THIS IS HOW HE PROMOTED IT. HE CAME

TO WINONA. HE HAD THE STATE OF THE STATE AND WAS HELD ON FEBRUARY 9; 1980.

YOU WILL SAY HOW DO I REMEMBER THAT DAY? IT HAPPENED TO BE

REPRESENTATIVE JEAN

PELOWSKI'S

BIRTHDAY AND IF YOU REMEMBER MY SPEECH ON THE HOUSE FLOOR ABOUT TOM RUKAVINA AND

THE LETTERS MY FATHER

ALSO WROTE THE GOVERNOR. TOLD THE GOVERNOR

WAS MY BIRTHDAY. SO THIS IS THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WINONA DAILY NEWS

DECLARING IT

JEAN PELOWSKI DAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO WORK

THAT IN TO A STATE OF THE STATE OR A

MINI SESSION; WE CAN PROBABLY DO IT BUT

ALSO NOTICE THAT THE SPEECH IS ALL ABOUT

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND PERPICH NOW IS GOING TO PUSH NOT JUST FOR COMPOSITE ENGINEERING. HE WANTS AND ENGINEERING BUILDING. SO

THE RESULTS;; I HAVE SORT

OF STATION THESE THIS WAY. IF IT IS NOT THE BUTTON

IT'S A STATE OF THE STATE. IF IT'S GOT THE LITTLE KEYCHAIN

IT'S THE MINI SESSION BUT NUMBER ONE;

UNDERGRADUATE COMPOSITE ENGINEERING WHICH IS STILL THERE AND SO THE

ONLY UNDERGRADUATE

PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY BUT NUMBER TWO; A NEW BUILDING WHICH IS NOW

STAR; BUT WAS APPLIED HEALTH AND SCIENCE BUILDING FOR NURSING AND COMPOSITES. NUMBER THREE;

NEW AVIATION CENTER FOR THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE. NUMBER FOUR; PLAN FOR THE WSU LIBRARY WHICH ARE BE THE FIRST DIGITAL LIBRARY

AN

D WHEN IT WAS BUILT WILL BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE BUILDING AT

THE TIME BY THE STATE

UNIVERSITY SYSTEM. THE OVERPASS OF THE WINONA RAILROAD TRACKS

TAKES STATE MONEY FEDERAL MONEY AND THE MONEY TO BUILD FOR THE DISCUSSION WAS HELD DURING THE

MINI SESSION. AND THE ACQUISITION OF

BOARDS HALL AS THE ONLY

RESIDENCY COLLEGE IN THE STATE

UNIVERSITY SYSTEM. SO THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF THE STATE OF THE STATE AND THE

MINI SESSION JUST FOR WINONA. SO THE NEXT ONE; ROCHESTER.

ROCHESTER HAD A STATE OF

THE STATE AND YOU CAN SEE IN

2005 TIM PAWLENTY CAN TRIM

TIM PAWLENTY

WITH DOLLARS THAT HE WOULD SUPPORT A BRANCH OF THE UNIVERSITY MINNESOTA IN ROCHESTER. HE THEN ESTABLISHED

A COMMITTEE TO STUDY IT

AND BECAME THE ROCHESTER

BRANCH OF THE UNIVERSITY

OF MINNESOTA. THIS IS

A SIGNIFICANT EDUCATIONAL ADDITION TO

THE UNIVERSITY AND TO

SOUTHEASTERN MINNESOTA AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE STATE OF THE STATE.

SO WITH THAT; MEMBERS; IF YOU WONDER WHERE THESE COME FROM; THIS IS HOW

I TAUGHT MY HIGH SCHOOL CLASSES AND MY COLLEGE CLASSES

.. THESE ARE AN ARRAY OF DIFFERENT

COURSES I'VE CREATED AND ALL OF THESE ARE NOW PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC IN VARIOUS WAYS. SO IF YOU ARE WONDERING WHEN THE NEXT

ONE IS;

NOTICE THAT WE HAVE THE

FRENCH REVOLUTION AND NAPOLEON. THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED

NEXT MONTH AT CASTLEROCK MUSEUM

.. THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I

PRESENTED IT. THIS CONTAINS MUSIC; ART; ARCHITECTURE AND LITERATURE

FROM THE ERA OF NAPOLEON THE

FRENCH REVOLUTION. YOU CAN SEE THE REST COULD PROBABLY DO WHEN YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED AND IT TOOK TWO YEARS TO CREATE THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE RENOVATION OF

THE CAPITAL. THIS TOOK THREE YEARS AND I USE THE 3000

HIGH-RESOLUTION PICTURES FROM TOM -- AND I PUT ABOUT 700 OF THEM OUT AND IT HAS

THE ENTIRE RESTORATION OF THE CAPITAL FROM THE GROUND ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP. SO WITH THAT MEMBERS AM OPEN TO QUESTIONS. THEN; THERE

IS A HIGH-STAKES QUIZ

NEXT NOVEMBER.

>> REPRESENTATIVE POPPE:

YES; REPRESENTATIVE

>> REPRESENTATIVE

I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS BECAUSE

I'M ONE OF THE OLDER MEMBERS

THAT DOESN'T THINK 1990 WAS VERY

LONG AGO. >> [LAUGHING]

I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THIS

RELATES TOGOVERNOR PERPICH

IS CAPITAL FOR

A DAY? I WAS PRESENT OF THE GRAND RAPIDS

AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND I THINK WAS 1990

THAT HE HAD A SERIES OF

CAPITAL FOR THE DAY EVENTS AND

JUST LIKE

WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE; MANY SESSIONS; THE COMMUNITIES CAN TOGETHER

. IN OUR CASE IT WAS THE

MINNESOTA CITIZENS LEAGUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE; WE CREATED OUR

OWN AGENDA. BASED ON THAT AGENDA;

COMMISSIONERS WERE ASSIGNED

TO VISIT.. I DON'T REMEMBER

LEGISLATIVE HEARINGS SO MUCH AS

I REMEMBER

COMMISSIONERS COMING OUT

AND LOOKING THE COMMISSIONER OF TRANSPORTATION AND SO ON AND IT WAS FABULOUS.

LIKE

AN OVERNIGHT AND AT THE END OF A REALLY

CONFERENCE OF DAY THAT I

S BEEN WELL-PLANNED THAT THE GOVERNOR SPOKE AND WRAPPED EVERYTHING UP

AND INITIATIVES REALLY TOOK OFF AFTER THAT. I WAS AT THE CAPITAL FOR A DAY WAS A

WONDERFUL INITIATIVE. >> REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI:

MME. CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE CAPITAL FOR DAY IS DIFFERENT THAN STATE OF THE STATE.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTYALSO AT

CAPITAL FOR DANA TO GET FIND THEM. [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAD CAPITAL FOR A DAY AND IT'S A

DIFFERENT VENUE THAN WHAT I DESCRIBED FOR YOU HERE. THE STATE OF THE STATE TAKES A GREAT DEAL OF PLANNING. THE CAPITAL FOR THE DAY DID NOT TAKE AS

MUCH PLANNING. THE MANY SESSIONS TAKE EVEN

MORE PLANNING.

LOGISTICS OF A MINI SESSION OR SOMETHING

TO SEE. SO CAPITAL FOR THE DAY IS ANOTHER WAY OF DOING THIS BUT

I WOULD SAY IT'S A MUCH LIGHTER EXPERIENCE THAN THE TWO I HAVE DISCOVER YOU HERE.

>> CHAIR:

REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN >> REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR

AND REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI. AS

I RECALL IS A LOT OF PLANNING. I

WAS IN THE PLENTY

OF MINISTRATION WHEN HE WAS

IN ROCHESTER.

THAT WAS THE STATE OF THE STATE BUT THIS CAPITAL FOR A DAY; IT WAS

LIKE A MONTH OR MORE OF PLANNING AND REALLY I LIKE IT BECAUSE IT WAS FROM THE GROUND UP.IT WAS

VERY GRASSROOTS AND VERY SIMILAR TO THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT HERE. IT SOMETHING

-- I WAS WAIT TO SEE

IT RESURRECTED. BY FUTURE ADMINISTRATION >> REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI: MME. CHAIR; THE STATE OF THE STATE IS A PRESENTATION TO THE

ENTIRE STATE BUT IT'S A AT A LOCATION OUTSIDE OF

ST. PAUL WHERE THE GOVERNOR IS PROPOSING TO

THE LEGISLATURE. WHEREAS THE CAPITAL FOR THE DAY IS

A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION ALTOGETHER. I'VE BEEN PART OF ALL OF THE. SO I LIKE ALL THREE. I WISH THEY WOULD DO MORE

AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET OUT BUT WE NEED TO GET OUT

INTO AREAS OUTSIDE OF ST. PAUL

AND LISTEN MORE. THEN; BE ON SITE MORE. IT'S A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU ARE ON SITE WHEN YOU'RE LISTENING TO PEOPLE PEOPLE WILL NEVER TRAVEL HERE TO TESTIFY BUT WHO YOU MIGHT MEET THE DINNER WITH IN THEIR HOME. >> REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN: I AGREE.

>> CHAIR:

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

REPRESENTATIVE SAUKE >>

REPRESENTATIVE SAUKE: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR I WOULD LIKE

TO INVITEREPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI

TO SEE IF HE CAN FOCUS HIMSELF

TOWARD HOW DO COMMUNITIES AND

OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES

AND POSSIBLY EVEN THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND ELEMENTS

OF FOCUS THAT ARE GOING

TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LEGS INTO

THE FUTURE? ARE GOING TO HAVE

SOME SIGNIFICANCE

SO THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO

BE LEVERAGED? >> REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI:

MME. CHAIR; THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THESE.

THAT YOU WOULD PLAN IN ADVANCE WHAT

MIGHT BE LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS AND THAT YOU WOULD WORK TOWARD

EXPLAINING THOSE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. NOW WE HAD ONE ADVANTAGE WITH PERPICH AND THAT I HAD ALREADY PROPOSED A COMPOSITE ENGINE

AND WHEN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE HE WAS PROPOSING THE

ROCHESTER BRANCH OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA BUT YOU SAW THERE WERE OTHER ELEMENTS HERE; TOO. SOME OF THEM TRANSPORTATION.

RAILROAD TRACKS. ALL OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE PLAN IN ADVANCE AND ONLY IN YOUR COMMITTEE'S KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND THEN YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE HOUSE TO MAKE SURE THAT

THE COMMITTEES ON

SITEHERE THOSE; VISIT THOSE; AND

UNDERSTAND THIS. SO THIS IS A PROCESS

THAT STARTS 4-5 MONTHS

IN ADVANCE AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE

WORKED OUT.

BELIEVE ME; THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMUNITY

MEETINGS AND A LOT

OF INPUT. BEFORE THE HEARINGS WERE HELD.

MUCH MORE PLANNING THAN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HELD HERE. THAT'S JUST A COMMENT ON

MY PART.

>> CHAIR:

REPRESENTATIVE PAWLOWSKI; THE FACT THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING TO THIS

COMMITTEE TODAY; DOES THAT TELL US THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE

THE COMMITTEE THAT'S GOING TO

HELP TO FACILITATE

AND CREATE THE NEXT GENERATION

>> REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI: MME. CHAIR I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT BECAUSE A MUCH OF THE STAFF MEMBERS ON EITHER SIDE. WE'VE ARTIE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN

MY OFFICE. NO ONE COMMITTEE AT THE MINNESOTA HOUSE CAN ORGANIZE THIS. THIS IS GOING TO TAKE LEADERSHIP

AND GOOD STAFF TO ORGANIZE IT AND THEN IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF

OUR COMMITTEES TO WORK WITH LEADERSHIP AND THE COMMUNITIES

TO UNDERSTAND

HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS

ON SITE. WE LITERALLY WENT THROUGH EACH

OF THE COMM

ITTEES AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE; WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING; AND HOW IT'S GOING TO LINK TO A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA

WHEN THEY HIT THE ROAD IN

OUR AREA. EACH ONE GOT A LITTLE

BIT BETTER. THE MANKATO AND STARTED IT AND IT WAS EXCELLENT

BUT ON

CE STAFF GETS THE FEEL FOR THIS AND ONCE MEMBERS GET THE FEEL FOR IT IT DOES BECOME SORT OF

A COMPETITION WHO CAN DO THE BETTER JOB? WHO CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE PROPOSING WHAT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION/

I WOULD'VE GOVERNOR WALZ; GOV. WALZ HAS BEEN APPROACHED

BY THIS. HE WOULD PIGGYBACK HIS STATE OF

THE STATES WITH OUR SELF WE ARE IN ONE AREA

THE STATE

OF THE STATE HE'S IN ONE AREA OF THE STATE HE'S GOING TO GIVE ESTATE OF THE STATE AND WE WILL APPAREL LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS

MOVING HERE. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING WILL HAPPEN. NOW; AGAIN; THAT

TAKES WORK.

WILL WE BE PART OF THE PLANET? YES. I SUSPECT WILL BE PART OF THE BUDGET; TOO.

>> CHAIR: OKAY. ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS; COMMENTS? A LOT TO

DIGEST ITYES

REPRESENTATIVE GUNTHER

>>

REPRESENTATIVE GUNTHER: I THINK I REMEMBER THREE IF NOT FOROF THESE MANY SESSIONS

AND I WILL NEVER FORGET GOING TO

WILMER AND SEE MY FIRST 40

POUND TURKEY. AND REMEMBER IN

THE

COMMENT THAT WE DON'T CALL THESE BIG BIRDS THE SMALL PIGS

>> [LAUGHING] BUILDING WAS VERY

EVENTFUL. I REMEMBER CERTAIN

THINGS [INAUDIBLE] AND

WERE 1700

>> REPRESENTATIVE METSA: CAUSE A LOT OF THINGS

THE LEGISLATURE TO LOOK AT THE WE HELP CORRECT THOSE THINGS AND IT WAS VERY

POSITIVE FOR WILMER; VERY POSITIVE FOR ALL OF US.

>>

REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI: >> TESTIFIER: MME.

CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE GUNTHER AND

THE FEEDBACK FOR THIS AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE

WHEN YOU READ A LEGISLATIVE SESSION REPORT IT'S ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY GOOD

. THE PARTISANSHIP COMES IN AND EVERYONE IS GOING TO PICK A LITTLE BIT BUT

WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO THE PEOPLE IN

THE COMMUNITY IS A GREAT DEAL OF

PRIDE.. THEY WANT TO SHOW OFF AND THEY WILL

SHOW OFF AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED

TO DO. WE NEED TO SEE THEM AT THEIR BEST

AND ALSO

WHEN THEY NEED HELP; WHAT ARE

THE NEEDS. IT'S MUCH EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THEM LOCALLY THAN IT IS

JUST TO TESTIMONY UP HERE AND I SAY THIS WITH THE CHAMBER LOBBYISTS IN THE BACK OF ME I HOPE. WE DON'T NEED LOBBYISTS FOR THIS. WE ARE ON

SITE NOW. IT IS GOING TO BE THE LEGISLATORS AND THE COMMUNITY SETTING THIS UP. NOT

THE LOBBYISTS.

>> CHAIR:

JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL

; AS I LOOK AROUND AT THE COMMITTEE

MEMBERSHIP HERE; WE

HAVE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF

REPRESENTATION FROM THE

METROPOLITAN AREAS BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE ARE

GREATER MINNESOTA

REPRESENTATIVES AND THIS IS OUR OUR OPPORTUNITY COME I THINK;

TO SHOWCASE OUR PARTS OF

THE STATE THAT PERHAPS

PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS

COME TO. WE COME TO ST. PAUL. WE

ARE HERE FOR WEEKS ON END; MONTHS ON END; BUT

FOR THEM TO COME TO OUR AREA FOR A FEW DAYS SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY POSITIVE THING

TO SHOWCASE. SO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT

IT TODAY

>> REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI: MME. CHAIR JUST ONE

OTHER POINT. IT'S A LOT OF FIRST-TIMERS IN

THE LEGISLATURE NOTICE THAT FIRST TERMER

IN THIS PRESENTATION REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI WAS ALSO IN HIS FIRST TERM. YOU CAN DO A LOT IN YOUR

FIRST ON. IT TAKES A LOT

OF WORK.

>> CHAIR:

REPRESENTATIVE LISLEGARD

>> REPRESENTATIVE LISLEGARD:. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS BECAUSE TO TRULY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING FEEL IT TOUCH IT

AND BY US GOING OUT THERE AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE ACROSS ALL STATE I THINK

IT HELPS LEGISLATORS FOR ALL OF US TO GET A FEEL FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE.

I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL AND

I TRULY AM GRATEFUL. SO;

THANK YOU. >>

REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI: MME. CHAIR; NEXT WEEK WE HAVE A

HISTORY OF

CHAPTER 12 A AND 12-B OF HOW WE DEAL WITH THE NATURAL DISASTERS. IT'S GOING TO BE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION. THIS ONE THOUGH IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUS. SO

NEXT WEEK IS ALSO IN THIS

COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE

DURING THE

ACCOUNT FOR DISASTERS. SO WE WILL DISCUSS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO

HELP MINNESOTA WHEN THERE ARE NATURAL DISASTERS. SO THERE WILL BE

SIMILAR PRESENTATIONS. >> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS

OR QUESTIONS; AYE YES

REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN

>> REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN: MME. CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI;

WOULD WITH YOUR TEACHING BACK ON THEM JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH MAYBE RECEIVE GRADES AT

THE END? >> [LAUGHING] >> REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI: MME. CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE YOUR GRADE COMES THE NEXT ELECTION

. AND

IT'S HIGH-STAKES. WHETHER YOU WIN OR LOSE I PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT I'M PRESENTING. >> >> [LAUGHING] >> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT WELL

THANK YOU

REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI AND MEETING ADJOURNED. >> [GAVEL] >> [ADJOURNMENT] >>

For more infomation >> House Greater Minnesota Jobs and Economic Development Finance Division 1/30/19 - Duration: 42:17.

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Latest Minnesota Hockey Rankings Released - Duration: 1:03.

RECORD WITH 183 SOLO TACKLES.

>> THE LATEST STATE HIGH SCHOOL

HOCKEY RANKINGS WERE RELEASED

TODAY, AND DESPITE DROPPING A

PAIR OF GAMES LAST WEEK, THE

BRAINERD LITTLE FALLS GIRLS TEAM

ONLY FELL TWO SPOTS TO NUMBER

7.

RIGHT ON THEIR TAILS IS THE

ROSEAU RAMS AT NUMBER 8.

BRAINERD WON BOTH REGULAR SEASON

MATCHUPS BETWEEN THOSE

TEAMS, AND YOU HAVE TO THINK A

REMATCH IN THE PLAYOFFS IS

LIKELY.

GRAND RAPIDS GREENWAY HOLDS

STEADY AT 15TH IN THE 2-A

POLLS.

WARROAD REMAINS AT NUMBER ONE IN

CLASS A.

THE WARRIORS ARE 20 AND 0 ON THE

SEASON.

THEY TAKE ON MOORHEAD ON

SATURDAY.

IN BOYS HOCKEY ROSEAU REMAINS AT

NUMBER 16 IN CLASS 2-A

FOLLOWING THEIR TIE TO WARROAD

LAST NIGHT.

WHILE THE WARRIORS REMAIN AT

NUMBER 10 IN CLASS A, AND

DESPITE THEIR 8 AND 13 RECORD,

THE GREENWAY RAIDERS HAVE

IMPRESSED VOTERS ENOUGH TO KEEP

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2019 Federal Title IV-E Minnesota Foster Care Eligibility Review training - Duration: 35:53.

Mary Kelsey: Hello. Welcome to

the Minnesota Department of

Human Services training session

on preparing for the 2019

federal Title IV-E Foster

Care eligibility review.

I'm Mary Kelsey.

I'm Title IV-E policy

specialist here at the

Department of Human Services

in the child safety and

permanency division.

With me today are Debbie

Retterath, our eligibility

determination trainer for the

southeast region and

Paula Katzenmeyer,

our eligibility determination

trainer for the southwest

region of the state.

For today, we will start with

an overview of our agenda.

Our agenda for today will

include first an overview of

the timelines and the logistics

for our preparations for the

2019 review.

We'll cover case record

requirements including both

the requirements for the

official case file submissions

as well as the blue file folders

and IV-E case summaries that

will need to be submitted.

We will discuss the delivery of

the files to the Department of

Human Services in St. Paul and

we will also discuss resources

for you in preparing for the

federal review.

The schedule of events we'll

begin to discuss now.

In late January which is what

is happening now,

we've sent you an email

notification that your county

or trial agency has cases that

have been selected for the

federal review.

Along with that notification

we provided you the link to this

training to assist you with

preparing for the review.

On Wednesday, February 6th from

1:00 to 3:00 in the afternoon,

we will be having a WebX

question and answer session

for all of you to be able to

ask any questions that you have

in preparing your files.

On Friday, February 15th is

when the case records are due

at DHS.

February 19th to March 1st,

for those two weeks,

we will be preparing for the

review at DHS.

We'll be conducting our

pre-review preparation

activities.

Then from March 11th to the

15th, that is the week of the

federal review when the federal

review team will be on site at

DHS conducting the review.

Then from March 18th to the

21st, we will be returning the

case files to the counties and

tribal agencies.

Review logistics.

The period under review for

this review is April 1st 2018

to September 30th of 2018.

The statewide sample for the

review consists of 80 cases

plus an over sample of 10% or

20 additional cases.

For the review, substantial

compliance consists of an error

rate of 5% or less.

So, that means of the 80 cases

that are ultimately reviewed

during the federal review week,

we will need to have four or

fewer cases in error in order

to be in substantial compliance

and pass our federal review.

For the review preparation,

counties and tribal agencies

will need to provide DHS with

the entire official case file

for each child in the sample.

This will include the social

service, income maintenance

and the licensing files for

each child and their placement

episode in the period

under review.

Counties and tribal agencies

will also need to use blue

case files and forms that

will be provided by DHS and

prepare the cases according to

the blue case file folder

format instructions that are

also provided to each agency.

This format is mandatory.

Then finally, you'll be

submitting all of your case

files to DHS by the end of the

day on Friday,

February 15th 2019.

The case record requirements

for the period under review

again of April 1st to September

30th of 2018, we are asking that

your agency submit one blue

file for each continuous

placement episode that includes

a completed Title IV-E Foster

Care eligibility review on site

review instrument,

and that's the July 2015 version

that we've provided to you.

A completed case summary for

the federal Title IV-E Foster

Care eligibility review form

and again, use the blue case

file format for the document

placement.

Debbie and Paula will now

discuss the details of the case

record requirements.

Debbie Retterath: Hi, I'm

Debbie Retterath.

I am the Title IV-E trainer for

southeastern Minnesota and I'm

going to be going over the

instrument itself and how to

exactly tab the case file and

get it prepared and shortly

Paula Katzenmeyer will be

coming and wrapping it up from

how to exactly to get those

files prepared and using the

instrument to do so.

Okay, the first thing I'm going

to talk about is the

case summary.

And what that is, and you've been

given a copy of what that case

summary is, the case summary is

about the Title IV-E history of

the child.

It is not the child

protection history.

So, we really don't want to

know the details of what led to

the placement.

We want to know the Title IV-E

activities, court hearing dates,

petition filing dates,

those types of details.

Not the child protection

history.

So, keep that in mind when

you're completing the case

summary.

The next slide is about the blue

case file.

You've all been given a copy of

the blue case file.

You've also been given a copy of

how the blue case file is

separated out.

How the tabbing works and where

documents go inside that blue

case file.

That just makes it easier for

us to find the necessary

information and makes the

review itself more efficient.

So, as part of the blue case

file format, we need to know

exactly where the documents are.

So, by putting them in this

file format, it makes it easier

for us as reviewers to find the

information quickly and make

sure we have all of the

necessary information so that's

why you're following this blue

file format.

Tells you what to file and

where to file it.

Also you were provided

with tabs.

Those tabs you will use to

identify every document and the

question that document

relates to.

So, for example if you were

answering question number 9,

you are going to put number 9

on the document that answers

that question.

You do not have to put multiple

copies of every document.

If the document itself

addresses more than one

question, just go ahead and

write every question number

that it identifies on that tab.

If you need to use an extra tab,

that's fine too.

But you do not have to have

more than one copy of any

particular document within that

blue file folder.

So, now onto the fun part.

The review instrument itself.

You should all have a copy of

the actual review instrument.

Before I get started on the

review instrument, I just want

to clarify that not every

question is talked about in

detail as part of this

PowerPoint or as part of this

presentation.

We are kind of focusing on more

of the areas that cause us a

little stress and trouble.

Some of the self

explanatory ones.

We'll talk about them briefly

but we're not going to go into

them in a whole lot of detail,

so if you're wondering why

question numbers might be

missing, we did that

intentionally to focus on the

ones that we needed to really

make sure everybody understood

what was necessary.

So, in section D of the

instrument, it starts out with

the child's demographics.

Name, sample number.

Those are provided by DHS, the

sample number.

The child's PMI number.

All of that identifying

information goes in the first

part of section D.

And then we move on the substance

which would be starting on

section E.

The first question we have

there is question number nine.

It starts out what was the

child's age.

So, in my little previous

example, if you're answering

question number nine,

you're going to tab the birth

certificate with a tab that

says number nine because that's

how we're verifying the child's

date of birth.

Question number 10.

This is one that we have

struggled with in the past and

that is the date the child has

been removed.

What we are looking for here

is was it a police hold?

Was it a court order?

Was it a VPA?

Court order, ex parte,

what action started the removal

for this particular continuous

placement episode?

So, that's pretty important and

it's also important to make

sure that you provide us with

that document.

If the police hold started the

placement episode,

we need a copy of that police

hold so if you don't have it in

your file, you have to go find

it for us.

In the next slide, we actually

have a sample of what a police

hold looks like.

Kind of small print but you can

kind of get the gist for it.

We also have a sample of an ex

parte order.

Those are court actions that

start placement episodes.

So, ex parte orders are very

important and we

can't ignore them.

So make sure you're double

checking to make sure that we

don't have an ex parte order

that started this particular

continuous placement episode.

Ex parte orders will typically

or I shouldn't say typically

should contain the best interest

judicial finding and we're

going to talk about that in a

few more slides.

They may or may not have the

reasonable efforts to prevent

findings.

So, keep that in mind as you're

going through and answering

additional questions.

Your ex parte order may be used

for more than one question.

So, the next slide talks about

number 11.

The entered foster care date.

The one date that we truly,

truly, truly struggle with.

For the most part, if you use

the data that comes to you from

SSIS and have coded SSIS

properly the entered foster care

date will be identified for you

by SSIS, but the slide tells you

how to manually calculate

that date.

What's important here is was

there a chips adjudication

finding?

Was there a finding that the

child is in need of protection

and services and when did that

finding occur?

So, question number 11 is

looking for that finding within

that first 60 days but we want

you to provide us that chips

adjudication finding and order

regardless of when it happened.

That way then we are sure that

you actually looked for it.

We know that a chips

adjudication occurred but it

was outside the window that we

are using for question 11.

Question 11 becomes important

when we talk about permanency

here in a few more slides.

So, getting this date

established properly in the

beginning makes everything go

smoother a little bit farther

down this instrument.

On the next slide, we actually

have a little sample of what

you're looking for in a chips

adjudication order.

We're actually looking for

something that says this child

is adjudicated as a child in

need of protection and services.

Not necessarily just that

you've held a court hearing but

the court actually has made

that finding of a chips

adjudication child is in need.

If you have questions about any

of these questions on any of

the cases, please make sure you

contact your EDT.

We will help you go through it

and get the right answers from

the get go.

So the next question we're

going to talk about is

number 12.

This one's applicable only to

court ordered removals.

So, if you have a VPA removal,

you're going to hit not

applicable and move on to all

of these court ordered removals.

And we are looking for in questions

12 and 13 when did the judicial

finding of best interest occur?

Again, we need a copy of that

particular court order.

Now, there's some subset

questions underneath of there.

13A, 13B.

You're basically going to just

be following along with the

questions and answering them

correctly yes or no if you made

the findings timely and

hopefully you made them

all timely.

Question number 14 refers to

the reasonable efforts to

prevent the removal.

So, again we need a copy of

that particular court order as

well which may be the same court

order that you've identified in

question 13 and it may be the

same order or action that

you've identified in

question 10.

Again you do not have to put

multiple copies of the same

document to answer multiple

questions.

If you have a child that was

removed prior to March 27th of

2000, just call your EDT.

We need to talk about that.

If you have any child that

falls into those questions on

the instrument, call your EDT

before even going any further

so we can get those taken

care of.

The next section is section H.

Voluntary placements.

So, if you've answered in the

court ordered section that your

child was not court ordered,

now you are answering this

section, we also need a copy of

the signed voluntary placement

agreement.

So make sure you're submitting a

copy of that.

We always use the final

signature date of a voluntary

placement agreement.

So, anytime you're asked for

the date of the voluntary,

it's going to be that last

signature date.

The next slide has some of the

examples of what the DHS

documents and voluntary

placements look like.

There are two different

versions for Indian children

and non-Indian children.

Just as a reference as to what

you're looking for if you're

not quite sure what you're

looking for.

So, in a voluntarily placed

child as you all know,

you need a best interest

determination within 180 days.

You're going to identify that

in question 17.

Again make sure you provide us

that documentation even if you

were late and you didn't get it

within that first 180 days,

we still want to see it.

We still want to know when you

got it.

And make sure that we are

identifying that particular

element properly.

So, the valid removal.

What that means is that they're

looking for the timeline

between when either the court

said remove these children or

the parent signed the voluntary

placement agreement and you

actually put those children in

to foster care.

We refer to this one as the

coincide issue.

So, that's what question 18 is

all about.

Did you actually remove the

children when the court said or

the parents signed that VPA.

If there's a gap, you need to

get in touch with your EDT

right away because we're going

to have to do a little extra

work on any of those children

if there's a gap between the

court order or the voluntary

placement agreement and actual

the physical removal or

constructive removal

of that child.

So, now on to section J for

those of you who are

following along.

You're going to go,

"Oh no it's the permanency

section."

It can be kind of complicated

but I'm going to try to make it

as simple as possible.

So, if you will please look at

the little dialogue box in

which we are identifying the

dates of those permanency

actions, the first question

you need to bring forward from

the beginning of the instrument

is question number 10 and that

was that removal date.

Is it a police hold?

Is it an ex parte?

Is it a court order?

Is it a voluntary?

What's that date?

You're going to drag that one

forward.

You're also going to drag

forward question number 11.

That entered foster care date.

Okay. So, once you get those

two things pulled forward that's

going to tell us when your first

permanency is required.

It's going to be required 12

months after the entered foster

care date, the question 11.

That's going to start your chart

of when permanency is due.

Now, as you all know here in

Minnesota, we do a really good

job on getting permanency on

our children.

More often than we're required

under both state law and

federal Title IV-E policy.

It is okay to identify all of

those court orders in this chart

and provide us copies of those.

At a minimum we need to have

this every single 12 months.

So, make sure you are getting

enough permanency orders within

your chart because in a second,

I'm going to talk about the

questions we need to answer.

Make sure you have enough

permanency orders in your chart

to satisfy that 12 month

requirement for the entire

placement episode.

Not just the period under

review, but from the time the

child originally went in and

permanency was first required

12 months after the entered

foster care date.

Again if you're struggling with

this section, get in touch with

your EDT and we'll help you walk

through it.

Okay. So, question 19 talks

about permanency and if it was

timely.

So, as you're answering these

questions, the first question

we're asking is when was a

permanency finding made?

Immediately before April 1st

2018?

So, if it happened on March

31st that's the date we're

looking for.

If it happened on April 2nd,

that's not the date we're

looking for.

We need the one

previous to that.

Then that helps you answer the

next set of questions to make

sure that permanency is timely.

If you have a situation where a

child's permanency is not

timely, you need to call your

EDT right away because we need

to look into that, walk you

through it and make sure we

don't need to order some

transcripts or come up with

some other way to justify the

permanency finding that may or

may not be timely.

So, that's the permanency

section.

I'm going to pass this off now

to Paula.

She's going to start with the

AFDC relatedness questions in

section K and she'll run

through the second half of the

instrument.

Paula Katzenmeyer: Hi. I'm

Paula Katzenmeyer.

As Mary and Debbie both already

mentioned, I'm the trainer for

the southwest region of

Minnesota.

I'll be going through the

remainder of the Title IV-E

review instrument and

addressing the questions and

the necessary information for

those questions.

I'll be starting with section K.

The AFDC relatedness section.

Specifically question 20.

In question 20, you'll be

listing the removal home that

was used for the AFDC

relate and SD

determination.

The removal home is defined as

either the person who was the

subject of the country to the

welfare finding in the removal

order or the person who signed

the voluntary placement

agreement.

The next screen is covering

question number 21 and we'll

be identifying the lived with

requirement and addressing was

the child living with that

specified relative in the month

court proceedings were initiated

or the date the voluntary

placement agreement was signed.

There's one tricky term in that

sentence on that question in

that date court proceedings

were initiated.

We want to be sure that we're

using the appropriate

date there.

That is either the petition

filing date or the court

hearing date that initiated the

removal if there was not a new

petition filed or the petition

was filed after the

court hearing.

So, we're looking for either

one of those two dates.

The other areas are pretty self

explanatory.

Question 21A.

It's a bit different than

question 21.

Question 21 we were looking

for if that child lived with

the specified relative in that

eligibility month.

Question 21A is if they did not,

did they live with that

specified relative in any one

of the six months prior to the

eligibility month?

Questions 22 and 23 are not

addressed in the PowerPoint.

However they cover were the

living with and removed from

requirements met by the same

specified relative.

So you'll address that.

And then also was eligibility based

on the circumstances in that

removal home that you've

identified.

So, again you will identify

the removal home there and if

the AFDC determination was made

for that particular home.

The next slide then is question

number 24.

Was the AFDC eligibility based

on the circumstances in the

specified relative's home in

either the month that those

court proceedings were initiated

or the VPA was signed?

Well, again it lists the

eligibility month in that

question and then move on to

question 24A.

Question 24A specifically asks

if the financial need

requirement was met and

question 24B, whether or not

the deprivation factor was met

for that ADFC relatedness

determination.

Then question 25, just an

overall question asking if the

AFDC requirements were met for

that child.

As part of the documentation

for this area, we need to

remember that we have to

provide all of the

verifications that were

necessary to make that AFDC

relatedness determination.

Most importantly including a

copy of the Title IV-E Foster

Care AFDC relatedness

determination form.

You'll see a copy of that on

your next screen.

We will be requiring an AFDC

relatedness determination form

for each of the Title IV-E

sample cases.

If you have not already

completed one when you made

the original determination,

you will need to complete one

at this point to provide with

the file.

Moving on then to section L.

Section L is in regard to our

youth age 18 to 21 population.

Question number 26 it includes

26 A through D and all of those

are not applicable for this

review.

So, you can disregard those

when you're completing the

instrument.

Question 27 which is the start

of section M, did the agency

have legal responsibility for

the placement?

If yes, you can move forward.

If no, this is where you'll

need to provide verification

that if another agency had

legal responsibility for that

child's placement, care and

supervision that you would need

to have a IV-E agreement in

place with the other agency and

you'd be required to provide a

copy of that agreement.

If you're working with one of

the tribal agencies,

the Mille Lacs band,

Leech Lake, White Earth or Red

Lake, you do not need to

provide a copy of the Title IV-E

agreement for those agencies.

Section N is placement and

licensed foster care settings.

The first screen in regard to

that indicates and shows you

the steps that you need to take

in order to print a placement

grid, placement history grid.

We will be requiring that for

each of the cases.

So, if you have any problems

or questions as you're going in

to print that grid from SSIS

just get a hold of your EDT

trainer and we can walk you

through that if you're not

certain how.

The next screen in section N

covers questions 28 through 35.

All in regard to the facility

or the provider that the child

is placed in.

You complete this section if

there's more than one provider,

the additional appendix as well

for each facility or provider

that the child lived with or in

during the period under review.

So, questions 28 through 31 are

just identifying the placement.

The name of the provider and the

information about the provider.

32 is listing the dates that the

child was in that placement.

33. The type of placement

setting.

34 whether or not that provider

was fully licensed during the

child's placement there.

That goes on then to a final

question in 35 of whether the

licensing requirements were met

overall.

If it is a family foster home

and that family foster home was

licensed by another agency,

you'll need to contact the

licensing agency to request a

copy of that licensing file to

be submitted with this sample.

If the family foster home was

approved by a tribal agency,

you'll contact the tribal agency

to either provide the licensing

file directly to DHS or to your

agency so that that can be

attached to or included with

the sample for the review.

If the child is in a children's

residential facility or child

caring institution,

for those situations you'll

notify Mary Kelsey as soon as

possible so that we can begin

to gather those licensing files

for that type of a setting.

Question 36 then moves on to is

this a family foster home?

That's not in your PowerPoint

but you just answer yes or no

to that if it is a family

foster home.

36A will be answered for any

family foster home that was

newly licensed before October

1st 2008.

So, for any home licensed

between November 19th, 1997

and October 1st, 2008,

we will be requiring

verification over the criminal

record checks for that period

of time.

You will have to verify that

or provide verification of the

criminal record check that was

completed for that provider.

The next one. 36B is not

applicable here in Minnesota

because we did not opt out.

So you can just disregard

question 36B and move on to 36C.

36C is in regard to any homes

that were licensed on or after

October 1st, 2008.

For these homes we had a newer

requirement in that we have to

provide fingerprints to the

National Crime Information

database.

Also known as the Adam Walsh

requirement.

So, you will have to provide

the documentation that that

background study has been

completed including the NCID

submission of the fingerprints.

Again, for question number 37,

if the child was placed in a

childcare institution,

you'll contact Mary Kelsey and

she will obtain that licensing

file to verify both the

licensing status and the safety

and background check

requirements.

That is the end of the bulk of

the instrument.

There's one additional page

that if you know you've run

into any issues with eligibility

or any payments that maybe

should not have been claimed,

you'll refer to appendix two.

This is the page that's used to

document any potential over

payments or under payments that

you identify maybe claims that

you could have made and didn't.

So, if you have anything to

report on this page,

I would recommend contacting

your EDT trainer to talk

through that too so that we're

aware of those situations and

can help you complete that and

the dollar amounts.

Okay. So, that concludes the

instrument itself.

There's one other area that we

know will come up and that is

what if you have all of your

cases saved as electronic case

files?

So, if your agency has all of

your records stored

electronically, you will have

the opportunity to submit that

on a jump drive or flash drive

along with the blue case file

that you have completed.

The blue case file will need to

have the paper documents in it

that relate to each of the

questions on the instrument as

we've been discussing.

So, you'll have the blue case

file folder and if you have

paper files, you will also

submit all of the paper files

that go along with that.

Your social service file,

your IV-E case and your

licensing files.

If you have electronic files

then you will follow what's on

the next screen.

A jump drive format in order

to clearly identify all of

those documents on

the jump drive.

There's a labeling protocol

that needs to be followed.

So we have different sections

that we would like

noted in that.

A copy of that jump drive

protocol it is included in your

blue case file as well so that

you can check off to make sure

that you've identified each of

those areas on the jump drive.

You will need to submit that

back with the case file with

the identifying information in

the top.

The name, phone number and

email address of who can be

contacted with any questions

that we might have about the

jump drive.

That is where I will conclude

with the instrument itself and

the case files and I think

Mary at this point would like

to continue to give you some

more information about the

review itself and the process

that we'll be using to

complete that.

Mary Kelsey: So, to recap the

file requirements once again

because we want to be sure that

you have all the information

that you need to submit what we

need so that our review process

can move efficiently,

we'll cover it one more time.

Again we need you to submit

your entire case file including

first your social service

records regarding the foster

care placement and IV-E

eligibility.

Your income maintenance records

that document the child's IV-E

eligibility and then the

licensing files for children

placed in foster homes.

Again, the completed blue case

file with your case summary,

your review instrument for each

continuous placement episode

during the period under review.

Delivery of the files to the

Department of Human Services.

We're asking that you send the

files via certified mail so that

there is tracking so that we

don't have issues with lost

cases.

You'll mail them to attention

Mary Kelsey, K-E-L-S-E-Y.

Title IV-E Foster Care

Eligibility Review.

Minnesota Department of Human

Services.

Child safety and Permanency

Division.

PO Box 64943 St. Paul,

Minnesota 55164-0943.

If you wish to personally

deliver your files to DHS,

contact Angela Gruber,

G-R-U-B-E-R at 651-431-4713 or

via email at

Angela.gruber@state.mn.us.

Again, we're asking that the

files be delivered to DHS by

the close of business on Friday

February 15th.

Having said that,

we do also want to say that if

you're a larger county with a

large number of cases and you

feel like you'll need a little

extra time,

you can please contact me to

discuss those arrangements.

We understand we have a short

time frame here.

We're asking you to do a lot

and so if you need a little

extra time,

please feel free to contact us

to see what we can arrange.

Next we'll talk about security

of the files at DHS.

We want to assure you that your

case files will be kept in a

secured location here in a

locked conference room and that

only authorized DHS staff and

the federal review team will

have access to these files.

We also ask that you be sure to

use secured email for any

communications with DHS that

include names or other identify

or private information.

Some final thoughts.

First of all, we wanted to

encourage you to begin

preparing your case records

immediately.

We realize that we're working

on perhaps a shorter time frame

here than we have been able to

in years past.

So, we just encourage you to

start preparing your case

records right away and to be

sure to reach out to your

regional eligibility

determination trainer for

assistance early in the process.

They're available and happy to

assist.

The broader question of who

can help.

So, in addition to your

eligibility determination

trainers, again as we mentioned

earlier we're going to be

hosting a WebX question and

answer session on February 6th

from 1:00 to 3:00 in the

afternoon.

So, that's one way that you can

ask your questions.

You can also talk to other

staff in your country or your

tribal agency who have

experience with the F IV-E

eligibility determinations and

preparing for the federal audit.

Finally we have a slide here

with all the contact

information for all four of our

eligibility determination

trainers as you know.

We have regionally assigned

trainers and each county and

tribal agency has a designated

contact and so we've listed all

four of those individuals here

and then also my contact

information.

Deb Trotter Kovar.

She's the northwest Minnesota

regional trainer.

Telephone number 218-961-0080.

Email. Deborah, D-E-B-O-R-A-H

.a.trotter,

T-R-O-T-T-E-R @state.mn.us.

Deb Miller.

Northeast Minnesota trainer.

Phone number 218-850-4585.

Email.

Deborah Miller, D-E-B-O-R-A-H

.miller, M-I-L-L-E-R

@state.mn.us.

Paula Katzenmeyer.

Southwest Minnesota trainer.

Phone number 320-587-7982.

Email. Paula,

P-A-U-L-A.j.katzenmeyer,

K-A-T-Z-E-N-M-E-Y-E-R

@state.mn.us.

Debbie Retterath.

Southeast Minnesota trainer.

Phone number 507-582-1046.

Email. Debbie,

D-E-B-B-I-E.retterath,

R-E-T-T-E-R-A-T-H@state.mn.us.

Finally, Mary Kelsey.

Phone number 651-431-4386.

Email, Mary.kelsey,

K-E-L-S-E-Y@state.mn.us.

We want to thank you all both

for your assistance with this

review process and your ongoing

excellent work on this

complicated IV-E work.

We know that it's complicated

and we know that the review

process is a lot of work for

you to gather the information

and send to us in the time

frames that we ask.

We do appreciate your

assistance with that and we

look forward to

a successful review in 2019.

Thank you.